Neptune Aspecting Saturn tr by static Foreground in SSR

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Neptune Aspecting Saturn tr by static Foreground in SSR

Postby Venus_Daily on Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:05 am

My mother's Solar Return, for 2012, I've spoken about it before, it puts tr Neptune on DSC, I've read the interpretation about that, but Saturn will be making an partile less than 30' minutes to Neptune, a trine. I've read about this horrible aspect so many times. Is it likely that my mother will loose everything, what little she has left....ect.... There are no really saving graces except for an MC moon making a partile sextile to Venus.......I'm really hoping for some descent news, but the most that I can gather is that the static effect of the trine may take Saturn/Neptune out of commission?
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Re: Neptune Aspecting Saturn tr by static Foreground in SSR

Postby Jim Eshelman on Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:33 am

Transits by trine are usually of no consequence.
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Re: Neptune Aspecting Saturn tr by static Foreground in SSR

Postby Venus_Daily on Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:41 pm

Even transiting-transiting planets?!, I wish the same would happen for me in 2016, but I have a square between Neptune, and Saturn/ Saturn conjoining my natal Mars-Uranus conjunction. Not to mention the Vertex Conjunct tr Saturn Launching this quadruplicity into action. It makes me want to vomit just by looking at it. I am sorry for asking so many questions, but is there any possible way to avert or at least make these SSR/transits planetary movements less detrimental on your life?...Like can you prepare
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Re: Neptune Aspecting Saturn tr by static Foreground in SSR

Postby Jim Eshelman on Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:52 pm

Venus_Daily wrote:Even transiting-transiting planets?!,

That isn't what you described. You described one planet transiting in aspect to a Solar Return planet. (The latter isn't "transiting" - it's "natal" to the SSR.)

I am sorry for asking so many questions, but is there any possible way to avert or at least make these SSR/transits planetary movements less detrimental on your life?...Like can you prepare

If there is any Neptune-Saturn going on here, the first and main thing to watch for is an exaggeration of fear and anxiety. The main thing you need to do is find a way to release and "breath through" fear and anxiety - to distinguish between a purely psychological "event" (that the mind attaches to something happening in the environment) vs, a primarily physical / environmental event. Even in the case of the latter, it's important to let the mind not be disabled by fear.

In general, the way to increase your chances of "averting" a specific, undesired manifestation of a particular energy is to find another expression of the same energy. That is, you don't avoid the energy at all - that would be YOU vs. the UNIVERSE - but, rather, you sit in the driver's seat and throw yourself into expressing the energy.

I'm not yet clear that there actually is a live aspect in the situation you described at the start of this thread. My reading of your statement is that the SSR has transiting Neptune on the Descendant, and that (at a later date) t. Saturn will trine SSR Neptune. Did I read that wrong? - If you mean that the aspect is already there at the time of the SSR, then the trine is irrelevant in the SSR (only hard aspects "count") - EXCEPT in what I called the "first pass" read (in the SSR book), reading the SSR like a new natal chart. In that sense, a partile trine would have some importance, but would be read as a natal aspect, not a transitting one. The feel can be quite different. Read here: viewtopic.php?f=19&t=31#p165
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Re: Neptune Aspecting Saturn tr by static Foreground in SSR

Postby Venus_Daily on Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:30 pm

No Jim, these are two different chart, the first one is for my mother this year, and the second one is for myself in 2016.
She has a foreground trine of Neptune and Saturn. Both are solar planets, apology for the confusion.
Nep 4 aq
Sat 4 li
Dsc 2 aq

The second is a partile dynamic Neptune Saturn square, where Saturn Conjoins to my natal Mars/Uranus conjunction like I explained earlier. I was reading combination of Stellar Influences, and what to possibly expect, especially with Mars or natal Mars.....Ebertin.
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